Rick Warren: An Evangelical that Progressives Can (Maybe) Be Okay With
By Saxon Baird - Aug 19th, 2008 at 4:53 pmOver the last two weeks a number of publications have taken up the task at examining the anomaly that is evangelical pastor Rick Warren, who hosted the Saddleback Civil Forum, in which he publicly interviewed Barack Obama and John McCain, over the weekend. The most recent issue of The Economist declared him “the most powerful evangelical in America,” asking whether he might be the next Billy Graham. A recent article in Time proclaimed that “religion in America will never be the same” because of his influence. That piece goes on to note that Warren is unique because he has remained “conspicuously neutral on candidates,” while spending “the past few years positioning himself for… a role as a suprapolitical, supracreedal arbiter of public virtues and religious responsibilities.”
If you’re like me, you cringe at the word “evangelical.” Though I understand this is a bit of a caricature, I associate the term with Bush-loving conservatives and radical preachers proclaiming natural disasters as God’s will. However, my interest was piqued when I heard that the strange preacher who wears Hawaiian shirts and has done air-guitar moves on stage while singing “Purple Haze” by Jimi Hendrix had brought together Obama and McCain to talk about faith at his Southern California-based Saddleback Church.
What I discovered was that Rick Warren isn’t really all that bad.
When compared to the likes of John Hagee, Pat Robertson, and the late Jerry Falwell, Warren seems like a breath of fresh air. Choosing to soft-pedal such contentious issues as abortion, Warren focuses on promoting a movement to mobilize a billion Christians to stop what he has identified as the “five global giants”: spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, poverty, disease, and illiteracy. He backs major initiatives to fight global warming. And, as a 2005 New Yorker article reported:
[Warren] and his wife, Kay, decided to reverse tithe, giving away ninety per cent of the tens of millions of dollars they earned from [his bestselling book] “The Purpose-Driven Life.” They sat down with gay community leaders to talk about fighting AIDS. Warren has made repeated trips to Africa. He has sent out volunteers to forty-seven countries around the world, test-piloting experiments in microfinance and H.I.V. prevention and medical education.
Warren represents a brand of evangelicalism more concerned with social issues than partisan politics. And he seems to respect the separation between church and state. As a recent Los Angeles Times article reported, in a letter to his congregation Warren admitted to receiving calls from three Republican and three Democratic candidates during the primaries, but they were looking more for spiritual counsel than a political leg up:
You know that I never endorse, nor campaign for, political candidates. Neither is it my role to give political advice. But I am a cultural observer and I do understand the unique stresses and responsibilities of public leadership, so I try to help leaders when asked.
Warren, who has had both Obama and Hillary Clinton appear at his Saddleback Church during events concerned with AIDS prevention, also tolerates diversity of opinion. Prior to the Forum, Warren stated that it was an attempt to introduce civility into public discourse and went on to say that both candidates “were very different in personality, in philosophy, in direction, in goals and in vision, and there’s nothing wrong with that.”
Admittedly, Warren won’t garnet much respect from staunchly secular progressives who believe that religion is the root of what is wrong with this country. And I realize that it is probably hard to disassociate evangelicalism from conservatism or the Republican party. Yet, as a recent E.J. Dionne, Jr. column about Warren reminds us, this is often a false assumption:
The notion that Christianity in general and evangelicalism in particular are by nature right-wing creeds has always been wrong. How can a faith built around a commitment to the poor and the vulnerable be seen as leading ineluctably to conservative political conclusions?
I certainly don’t agree with all of Warren’s political views. However, I do agree that it’s important to listen to those with whom you disagree, and I respect the social projects sponsored by Warren and his church. Furthermore, Warren seems to keep his political views to himself to such an extent that he comes across as a non-polarizing figure, someone who could appeal to those on both sides of the political spectrum. Regardless of your stance on or belief on Christianity, it is certainly an influential force in America. And as long as the evangelicals are around, we should hope for more like Warren.



From the Daily Dish:
I guess we now know where this guy [Rick Warren] is coming from:
For many evangelicals, of course, if they believe that life begins at conception, that’s a deal breaker for a lot of people. If they think that life begins at conception, then that means that there are 40 million Americans who are not here [because they were aborted] that could have voted. They would call that a holocaust and for them it would like if I’m Jewish and a Holocaust denier is running for office. I don’t care how right he is on everything else, it’s a deal breaker for me. I’m not going to vote for a Holocaust denier…
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/rick-warren-on.html
August 19th, 2008 at 5:52 pmDid you read the full transcript of that interview? Thanks Sullivan for cutting and pasting at will.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/godometer/2008/08/rick-warren-to-godometer-obama.html
I think, if you go re-read that, it shows that Warren is talking about the views of, “many evangelicals” who may believe conception begins at birth. Plus, the question is about McCain’s stance on abortion and how he has been criticized by right-wing conservatives. It has nothing to do with Warren’s own beliefs.
A reading of the full transcript reveals that Warren is much more careful about making such radical statements(as in most interviews).
I’m not saying that Warren doesn’t believe this. I am merely pointing out that this quote has been taken out of context and that Warren is very hush-hush about his political stances and positions on such issues.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:07 pmSaxon makes a good point. It’s easy to paint all conservative Christians as evil, hateful fundamentalists–it’s a lot harder to recognize that there are as many nuances to their arguments as there are to ours.
And even if you don’t accept his work or values at the end of the day, it’s better to know your enemy well than make ill-informed, generalized arguments against him.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pmFine. Now who’s going to sponsor US economy forum, or a foreign affairs forum, or an Iraq War forum? Topics the majority of Americans are more interested in.
August 20th, 2008 at 12:17 amAs a former evangelical who spent a lot of time around Saddleback types, I can tell you that Warren is definitely a fundamentalist. Saddleback is indeed affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, although they choose not to announce this. Furthermore, they run a group which runs “reparative therapy” type programs for gays and lesbians. It’s the same old fundamentalist bullshit, repackaged in a way that downplays how conservative the institution really is. Evangelicals are starting to do this all the time (including the church I used to work at). Don’t be fooled. I for one found the debate to be supremely disturbing.
August 20th, 2008 at 2:56 pm